The asteroid Eros plays a role in sexual attraction as well. I've never experienced it myself, but have read that Lilith/Pluto contacts are also intensely sexual and even violent (particularly the opposition). in the 12th house, you might be safe in assuming that there was a marriage or long-term relationship in a past life. It is sad! His moon also conjunct my IC, orb 1. Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. If you have a dominant Dejanira, you will be a victim. Is this a synastry, Ariel? And how would his Saturn conjunct her dejanira play out? As for MY natal chart I also have mars and Saturn conjunct in Scorpio. This is not dark sexual, per se. Thanks for your help Amiann. I wouldnt think my mars/Pluto semisextile is as strong though it can do damage. His makes two major squares to her inner planets. Where did you get these theories from? vertex conjunct moon and ascendant in scorpio can make it dark too? She is deeply alluring and irresistible. His dejanira is in opposition to his vertex. TEA & ROSEMARY LLC. Dejanira (female) conjunct Saturn (male) Is there a good part to Nessus/deja conjunct? Lilith person helps Ceres person find their power and authenticity. Love, Isis is extreme devotion to the partner in the bravest, most selfless way possible. Lilith conjunct Ascendant Youll have to use your judgement here. I'm really only just starting to get to know Eros well, and Lilith is still somewhat elusive. The relationship seems to end in a certain way, too. His ascendant is at 24 Virgo and has 0 Virgo in his 12th house. Thank you F for being here and for taking the time to comment.What do you mean exactly? In fact, it is the opposite. As long as we kept connecting the way we had been sexually, I was willing to "fight" for what I thought we had and felt I could withstand anything. If anything, Ive suffered abuse from others at times. Moon/Pluto as a conjunction is not dark , per se. We are not discussing potential long-term compatibility between the sexes, not the love match-rather, signs of initial sexual attraction and knee-jerk reactions between two people. I always seem to have the opinion that these people are somewhat evil yet gullible and innocent and therefore they deserve to be abused. It gives no leg room, and its fearful to people. Free Horoscopes charts, calculations Birth Natal Chart Online Calculator Ascendant, Rising Sign Calculator Astro Portrait: Sun, Moon, ASC Personal Daily Horoscope Transit Chart Calculator Secondary Progressions Solar Arc, Solar Return, Prognoses Synastry, Composite, Davison Chart Traditional Astrology Calculator Sidereal Astrology Calculator Draconic Astrology Calculator Various astrology . This really highlights this magnetic quality to this conjunction and creates a situation where each individual holds the . Is this you? Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Thank you for your reply. Maybe, maybe not. How fortunate we are to have such a wonderful body of info to help us! Well, I have been thinking about the situation. In mythology, Eros was the god of sexual love and desire. Ami, Christian Psychic Readings & Astrology Charts for All Faiths. I have looked at them unto themselves but everything matters so I will start to incorporate signs and houses. Its completely okay to stand by what you wrote. Not sure which one id prefer. It brings you back to the time when you were a child and truly powerless. It would have ruined my relationship with my mother because I would have feared her even though she showed no signs of abuse. , Not a sag actually, but a virgo with tons of leo in her chart, lol. 4) Conjunctions to the Axis/Angles = very strong bond. Not all people with a prominent Dejanira are victims I disagree.I think they will be until they can truly overcome it with God. Hi, The year started with powerful and forward thinking energy that will assist in elevating us both spiritually and subconsciously. I am sorry! I think you are insightful, do not get me wrong, but being fatalistic is not the truth, and me saying that being fatalistic is wrong to do and is detrimental to people that dont know how complex astrology is, does not mean that I am not accepting the truth. Ami, hello. Our mars are square (aquarius:leo) also. Juno aspecting the South Node simply means that the pair was married (in some way) in a past life, or had a longterm marriage-like relationship. Would you say that a double whammy Nessus OPPOSITE Juno is something dangerous too ? I just want to let people know that things are not as clean cut and set in astrology as it is written sometimes because things that are presented as the only possible, likely truth will make people will fear astrology and the people around them if they look into isolated aspects from small asteroids and planets alike. My first husband was abusive His Nessus conjunct my Descendant My Pluto opposite his Moon. What is your opinion on Next, I have uncovered that in my Draconic Dejanira is 1 degree conjunct my natal Scorpio Moon. I dont think you can draw the concrete conclusion you did from these aspects. Knowing more. With the Lilith conjunct sun, the Sun person is seduced by the other Lilith person. We have moons in conjunction in gemini; His venus and mars are in conjunction with my venus in Aquarius. Grace dear Who would bring who abuse? If a mans Nessus conjuncts, your Sun, Moon, Venus, Mars or North Node, he will abuse you, in my opinion. would you please shed some light as you see fit? You can gather the tone of the marriage based on the planets involved and the sign that theyre in. what would result from this? If you see Nessus in synastry, make sure you know which side of the fence he is on. Astrology 101 Astrophilosophy 1.8K subscribers Subscribe 119 3K views 1 year ago Eros and Venus in. Any comments will help. We do not have enough information on every aspect, and never will because again, no interpretation is set in stone to be able to tell someone that something is most certainly going to happen. Partners switch roles? It seems like the man of your childhood dreams walked out of the ether into your life like the larger than life heroes on the movie screens. Mars/Pluto is more primal in a pure sexual way than Moon/Pluto which is more emotional and much more emotionally bonded. Hmm My ex has Scorpio Pluto conjunct my scorpio moon, and I have Sagittarius pluto conjunct his sagittarius moon. If someone does not want to accept the truth, that is their choice, but I, personally, will not do their chart. It may seem challenging but we share many conjunctions and trines/sextiles. I always question the role of house overlays and given this topic the 8th house comes to mind. So the theory doesnt check out. Lilith and Ceres conjunct in the synastry chart Your rebellious free spirit and nurturing sides are enmeshed. Venus mars aspects One person is kind of riding the other one in this. I have 8 scorpio ascendant and he 4 scorpio jupiter. I've never had a more natural and effortless sexual connection to someone in my life, and it blinded me to a lot of things. Nessus conj the NN in synastry would make me RUN and fast lol. His abuse asteroid on her midheaven would be her reputation and career, right? Eros/Pluto/Lilith together makes for one powerful combination. He has a strong nessus (conjunct with his sun + true node in cancer ). I will try to maintain rock solid boundaries and not get led into any weirdness as nothing is amiss yet. Mars is the planet of passion, desire and sexual drive and Eros is the physical act of sex Re: Lilith conjunct . They have lots of soulmate connections in the charts and both make really strong NN conjunctions and squares in synastry. They may cause each other significant pain and strife, but God help any outsider who dares to point it out. I hope I can do this in my articles. Most Astrologers dont tell things straight like I do. I was shocked to see it in this couples charts. We are to take the blueprint that is given and then do what we want with it. Is there a positive aspect to this connection? Keep in mind that conjunctions are the most important, but other aspects can occasionally speak to marriage. It would simply be different. You lose about 25% but still have about 75%. The conjunction is especially strong, but the trine, square, and opposition can also indicate a past life connection or marriage. When Lilith and Mars team up in synastry, there's nothing they can't do. I came across your blog post and so went through my charts looking for couple friends and this one came up as having the conjunction. I know there are astrologers who make every aspect positive but I dont think that is real and real is what heals and real is what gets people mad at you too lol. Eros: Synastry Aspects . They often indicate a desire to sexually conquer/arouse one another. This question would need me to see the whole chart because what I do is put it all together and come out with a practical answer. In my studies and usage of them, they play out to be the abuser and the victim. Ami is an insightful astrology. That is what I was saying. The fear can totally destroy someone over something that they read as if its fact. Mars pluto aspects I have moon conjunct neptune and venus in 12th house. Also, our vertexes are conjunct in the same degree. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry. With asteroids, one must be an intrepid explorer because there is precious little PRACTICAL info out there. I have only had this fantasy with him along with begging him and many many other fantasies. hmm well I dont really have his birth time lol so I just went by the general aspects, so I can see what he does to my moon and where his planets fall in my houses but not vice versa. I bet that the son was still the abuser though, even if he was the victim, as a child. Lilith on the ic is one of the more potent lilith synastry to have even in the composite. Hardly. There is so few information on these aspects so I really appreciate reading more about it here and in the forum. Your passions are overwhelming, spontaneous, and you develop your attractions without even thinking about it. My sun and deja are on his nn. Great primal connection with fighting lol. Saturn conj Mars in Scorpio could produce a kinky kind of thing. Are they married, Lo. Sorry, lol. No point living in fear for aspects that may not play out. Deja conj the DSC may make you look for wounded bird types. What significance would you place on someones Juno conjunct my vertex, south node as well as very-widely conjunct my sun (same sign). As such, Nessus seems out to be the abuser and Deja the victim. A recent past life will influence every bit of the relationship you have now. Chiron conj the Sun is not sexy. Further, there is such a thing such as free will. Yes, that is a good way to put it. I ve met a man who have his mars = my moon (1) in taurus and square my uranus (2) in aquarius. How does that play out? My guess is that it would be an obsessive relationship where both would try to hurt each other? Can it be dangerous amiann? Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. I guess ill post mine and then our synastry chart. I meant in synastry her saturn conjuct his deja 1 degree, Thats ok. Aww She may ride his case for being a victim like say, get over it etc etc, Pingback: Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. There`s also lot of growth and sweetness and nothing that amounts to abuse. I know this is an article for synastry, but Im a little worried about my natal chart after reading about Nessus and Dejanira. Please, keep giving your opinion. Im not accepting you scaring people into running from possible happy, fulfilling relationships over one aspect that none of us even know how it can manifest in millions of ways. Keep an eye on anyone who is near her. Most important to me is that you find Jesus. And my dejanira conjunct his Venus. orb). Eros is looking for his equal to explore the realm of creative intimacy. I admire your wisdom. Lots of good aspects so thats why the Nessus Dejanira confuses me. Deja conj ASC may make for victimization as you fo through life, I am not able to do more. The Five Darkest, Sexual Aspects in Synastry There is attraction based on dark forces like rage, pain and abuse. I have moon opposition pluto. (both in Capricorn) If it has not of yet, it may be a new relationship. Moon conjunct Pluto is the strongest of the Moon/Pluto aspects because the conjunction trumps any other aspect in strength. I mean, a persons life is complicated. They may not be able to see what you are up to and you could use this for your gain. This ascendant descendant conjunction alone does a very interesting thing in the chart. As you know, or can find from my directory, Eros and Psyche are my favorite asteroids. What about my nessus conjunct his descendant? That doesnt mean youve never been married. Yeah, the They may not be able to see what you are up and you could use this for your gain fits perfectly. I have to always be honest. Again, telling people to get out of or stay out of relationships with an aspect that you in particular think will cause them harm is not healing in any aspect of the word. The Sun person naturally understands who the Moon person is and vice versa. You can say you did it and you can help the next person who comes along. M. % would be more ambient but felt imo Maria dear. We also had a Juno Vertex conjunction. It makes my day , What conjuncts the DSC, we disown and find in the partner. If one person's Sun is conjunct Saturn and the other persons Eros is opposite Pluto, the contact will be quite different than if the Sun was conjunct Jupiter and Eros opposite Venus. I have no vested interest in any asteroid or any placement being any way other than my being able to help people. Lets hope more info comes out about this connection.:). I was wondering.. Are Sun/Mars (double whammy) and Venus/Mars (double whammy) dark aspects in synastry? Yes, their Moons are trine both in Earth signs. My Dejanira is square his venus (-0a) and conjunct his vertex (0s). his moon is in cancer so depending on what time hes born, there are 2 scenarios :1) my Saturn squares his moon but my sun and north node would conjunct it 2) my Pluto would square his moon but our moons would be in trine. Could you specify what you mean by abuse (subtle, verbal, violent etc.?)? Even with a trine this 8th house effect enhances both the good and the bad ? xx. I have this aspect with someone Im seeing. Things DO offset things but one must look at everything to see a final answer which is my goal when doing charts.I am not trying to sell myself here, just trying to show that your question is too deep for a quick answer, my Friend. we also have Eros (his) conjunct my Lilith and Pluto (mine) conjunct his Venus. At the end of the day, that is all this god and goddess really ask for.". I really have not looked at these aspects in signs, though. Yes very passionate.50shades of grey is just childplay. That is my commitment to my readers. It may be off a few minutes and change things. Thanks! I am not mad, I am correcting you for instilling fear in people with your claim to truth. This pairing can form a deep emotional bond, especially through physical intimacy. As I see more pieces, I think my awareness shifts, and I do feel like that makes a difference. I would have to consider the scenarios more. What do you think? His Amor is in trine and sextile to a few of her inner planets. It is a pleasure to be here. What use is reams of esoteric info for real life applications. It wasn't enough for me to have sex with him though. There is the potential to take things to another realm when the aspects are favorable. This aspect can bring intense emotions, profound personal growth, and the potential for both positive and negative experiences. It seems like sexual abuse is an emotional theme that I am working with in this life. They have a very strong sense of "us against the world," and they will fight to protect the boundaries of their relationship at all costs. Lovely and very filled with passion! Things were so passionate that we were bankrupting ourselves on planet tickets, so after a whirlwind 4 month courtship I quit my job and moved in with him- on the other side of the country. I was wondering how abuse would play itself out if the Nessus-Deja synastry conjunction is in Cancer. Eros in a synastry chart. Posts: 83From: 8th houseRegistered: Jan 2014, Posts: 50409From: Saturn next to CharmaineRegistered: Apr 2009, Copyright 2000-2015 I am very genuine towards others and fairness is must priority in all circumstances including my own critic.hate violence and abuse and stand up against it. His sun/jupiter/neptune/venus are on my venus/saturn trouble spot in scorp. I think the Nessus/Deja relationship in synastry is a re-play of childhood abuse. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. If you do not have either of these in the natal but have them in synastry, it will play out the same way. Ultimate Bulletin Board 5.46a, Powered by Infopop www.infopop.com 2000 From the outsider's perspective, Eros and the Ascendant person will seem as if they are living the romantic experience only witnessed in films. More about Synastry (relationship Astrology) Intermediate and advanced students of Astrology might enjoy our article, SoulMate . Lilith desires sacred sex above all things. Thats your opinion. You may be fated to marry. I am Sag with rising capricorn and he is Capricorn w/rising Sag. Is this something that reliably and consistently is reflected in a variety of different charts? There are many, many possibilities in astrology, even infinite if Im speaking on the complexity of each persons chart. The planets, asteroids, and stars do not cause only one particular outcome. The first would be Nessus. If you want to end it, be upfront and be kind. Also, I try to be very direct to counter the tendency in many Astrologer not to take a stand. Karmic astrology synastry is suddenlyreally interesting when you want to look at your own relationship. Dark sexual relationship synastry top 5 | Signing. I could not really answer this question without seeing the whole chart. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. It can ruin possible healthy relationships. the reason this is the case is that Mars is sexual drive( all drives actually). and should I post the picture of the chart (I usually get it from astro.com)? Thats weird. It is like sky diving. We enter the month of February, with lust, love and passion. In order to talk about an asteroid, one must isolate it. This aspect almost certainly speaks to karma from a past life marriage. Could it be a past life meaning? Also, It doesnt suit me. This is not a dark aspect, either. He may have little sympathy for her weakness. 5. I don't need anything from you, except to serve you. When/if that turns bad, it could become dark. Hi! I was wondering how much weight can have the orbit in a synastry.. for example, I have with a guy a Venus trine Pluto, but 5.46 orbit.. does it counts? He was considered irresistible. His natal mars, lilith, pluto conjunction is conjunct my ic and I've distanced myself from him knowing that he has wayyyy too much power over me, but every time I see him I can barely stand and immediately start shaking I am glad my post was helpful! Thank you a bunch for being so sweet Free~ I do agree that Ami is quite insightful, however I would like to chime in and say that I do not make every aspect positive I make every aspect neutral because the stars and planets are not going to tell you something is bad or make something bad. Try to post the charts so see a visual! Also, there is no abuse either way. PROSERPINA conjunct EROS (055') IP: Logged. I am sorry. Thanks for the push in this direction, my Friend. Everyone should have one once in a lifetime, I suppose. And thank you for this article, I should have said that before. I've found that the Eros person has a "crush" on the planet person. Double whammy of Mars-Uranus in our synastry chart. Squares and oppositions between Saturn and Juno can speak to a difficult relationship in the past, and theres some potential for this difficulty to be repeated unless both people are committed to working through their issues and working on the relationship. We have no moon aspects will this help? They have a very imaginative sex life. There are some other great planet aspects but I am very curious about the ones I listed. The pairing can easily fulfill the other's sexual desires and unlock some of their naughty fantasies. Do we exile her from consciousness or build her a sanctuary for potent, creative expression? In these dark, sexual relationships, you feel the raw passion and soul mate connection like no other. The chart never lies, my Friend. I know my life, and what manifests in it. Not good, my Friend. It takes me several hours so I could not do it here. The issue is that me disagreeing with you being fatalistic (because what you say is not what always happens, not even 60% of the time because I have nessus/dejanira aspects with most people that are close to me, and I have never been abused or attacked in any of those relationships) does not mean that Im not accepting the truth. Lilith brings up deep and primal sexual energy sometimes accompanied by feelings of anger and rage. In other words, if a mans Nessus conjuncts your ASC, he will abuse you, in my opinion. Why dont you come and put the chart up on my Forum? Yet despite this fearsome reputation she was often dismissed as " a minor Babylonian wind deity " or similar. A Sun conjunct Lilith transit highlights the power traits like charisma, magnetism, emotional force and leadership qualities of the Sun. I had this excerpt saved from somewhere on the internet, but don't have the original source.