AOPA Members DO more LEARN more SAVE more - Get MORE out of being a pilot -. This makes all the installations the same (wiring wise, there is room for discretion where to mount things and such but not when it comes to the interfaces and configurations). Now it seems that I have to rebuy the system again in repairs? B) Reboot the avionics stack in a hold or something and then re-program the approach and hope the pitot issue clears up for the Aspen. - There is no ADSB-In info being fed into the systemI use a portable stratus and ipad/foreflight for weather/traffic. My Bendix/King HSI was giving me problems. The inclusion of leading technology companies like Aspen Avionics helps the AIRO Group further capitalize on the attractive [aerospace and defense] market trends around autonomy, avionics, and military training, said Chris Gidden, managing director and global head of aerospace and defense for Stephens, a financial advisor retained by the AIRO Group. Aspen have been very supportive and I have been compensated for the Avionics shop time in reinstalling the RSMs which is not a trivial operation. Like the E5, the MAX PFD has a GPS-aided AHRS for pitot static system failures, an audio panel interface, a faster processor, onscreen font and window enlargement, plus the requirement for backup flight instruments is eliminated when a PFD is paired with a MAX MFD1000. Availability of an aircraft approval and expandability were the next strongest selling points, with 18 percent and 16 percent of respondents noting it, respectively. Nearly half the respondents reported problems of one kind or another, but there was no smoking gun and many of these were in the earlier deliveries. We install avionics from a number of manufacturers including Garmin International, Aspen Avionics, and Genesys Aerosystems. The FAA approved software v2.10.2 in March 2020 addressing the infrequent but potential reset issue of Evolution MAX series displays and we have successfully implemented this software change for affected customers, Aspen said. Paste as plain text instead, As one Bonanza owner put it, It just made sense. Poll: Did You Watch the Dragon Splashdown? - E5 MAP software was 2.10 during all of this It must be mounted within 4 degrees of the longitudinal axis of the aircraft and away from any interference sources. 2002 Cirrus SR20. All rights reserved. For those who never had GPSS, we saw, My autopilot never worked this well before. For those who had an S-TEC or other GPSS-capable autopilot, GPSS is lazy. Arming NAVGPSS - Allows NAVGPSS to be armed from the HDG mode. Aspen is reportedly working on an update and a fix. He has an E5 showing similar unsafe behavior, i.e. I brought it to my installer and said take it back, give me the G5s for redundancy. Join their team of dedicated and passionate professionals, fueled by the most powerful brand in private aviation, as they continue their mission of democratizing the . More information is available here and you can comment on the AD here through March 11:https://www.regulations.gov/document?D=FAA-2018-1085-0001, though given that the FAA employee who is managing the AD has been shut down, and the commentary period runs past the final adoption date, commentary seems a bit optimistic. Where MS bridges the gap between Aspen and a Machen A36. - Seems that there is no correlation in the events for the in-flight reset As we explained, the E5 does require standalone airspeed, altimeter and turn coordinator instruments. 1 review for Aspen Avionics E5. This is a good point. The AD goes into effect on Aug. 17, 2020, and is open for public comment until Sept. 14, 2020. The directive applies to Aspen Evolution 2000 MAX and Evolution 2500 MAX systems running software version 2.10 or 2.10.1 in aircraft where independent attitude, altitude, and airspeed backup instruments have not been not installed. During this flight the auto pilot does not react on any inp. Become a member and get exclusive access to articles, contests and more! Not sure if the E5 is governed by the same STC for IFR flight. The new software is free of charge from Aspen Avionics. The final EA100 came out of one of Aspens aircraft that had a good known working history. Unlike higher-end Aspen displays, the E5 doesnt have a traditional electronic HSI, but instead a basic CDI below the compass rose. - I've flown about 80 hours since original E5 install A/p = KFC-200 After 10 seconds of inactivity, the knob returns to its default setting. Five hot keys to the right of the instruments navigation display toggle various features on and off, including the built-in GPS steering. Would be possible for sure though, just not fun. 35 instances of display systems automatically resetting have been reported. I don't think any shop will be able to diagnose it any better than I can as I am an installer. My head was trying hard looking for something to scan, while everything was in one place I became a decision maker instead of an interpreter, my [new] scan allows me to make sure I am getting valid information., We noted in our first report on the EFD1000 that the small type was a bit of a problem. Contact www . Kate OConnor works as AVweb's Editor-in-Chief. Remember, the interface requires a compatible IFR GPS navigator, and more than one navigator requires the installation of the optional ACU. He probably is getting the unit for a net $8100 and install is really $1900..who knows. New technology always takes some time to shake out the bugs, so now that there are hundreds of units out there in the field, we surveyed users to see if the reality is living up to the marketing copy. At this point it appears to be a faulty EA-100 like the others have had. ADS600-B, Part Numbers 200-0012 and 200-0013. Thats a drastic shift from previous Aspen upgrades, particularly ones that include multiple TSOd screens like the one pictured in the Cirrus panel here. IN . Without the Garmin 430W, the airports painted on the Aspens map would not be painted as they come from the 430W database. When I ask customer support about similar reports, they don't seem to recall yours. I've had 3 in-flight E5 restarts ( 1 on each E5 )the E5 just goes blank and reset as if it was normal: 1st reset) On final approach to rwy in Feb - approach power/RPM, gear going down:::E5 replaced by Aspen in Mar. Indooroopilly, Queensland, Australia. The FAA requests that owners and operators of any ADS-B IN (FIS-B) enabled aircraft and the owners and operators of Aspen EFD flight display notify the FAA contact listed below of any similar events. If youre used to those first-gen Evolution displays, even the entry-level E5s display will look and perform better. Logs seem clean to me but Aspen has yet to review and make a root cause determination. But for some owners, overall satisfaction was a tough call. The biggest gripe is resolving hardware issues right after the install. The E5 has a data bar that visually separates the upper and lower halves of the display. drb930 In that case, the E5 will continue to display attitude and heading data and will display an attitude degraded message on the screen to prompt the pilot to turn on the pitot heat. I'm not giving up though and looking to get this fixed.Aspen has been in this business a long time and I would expect that they will be able to figure it out. Aspen had a bad batch of RSM antennas at one point. As we expected when we reviewed the Evolution system a year ago, the EFD1000 Pro version is the market favorite, with 95 percent of the respondents choosing that system. These units are installed in different configurations on, but not limited to, the aircraft makes and models listed in the attachment below. As mentioned in my email, it is best to have an Authorized Dealer take a look at the system and diagnose the problem. Since the E5 was certified (via an AML-STC) using new ASTM standards, the typical installation doesnt require a backup attitude indicator as required by old regulations. 3 different ACU's Posting id: 822710294. I have a 1982 A36 with a Century III autopilot. It is a two way street. The lower center button is for selecting the navigation sources for the electronic CDI and for entering and exiting the menu and for reversion or manual power control. 2) Fabricate shim from 2024-T3 aluminum with the four (4) mounting holes and 0.625" cable pass-thru drilled through. The good news is that Aspen support was praised. plus the dealer labor which equals out to 1/4 of the total cost of the EA-100 which is robbery in my opinion. We are currently recruiting an Avionics Maintenance Technician for one of our clients. aspen avionics problems. Aspen actually thought it was a hardware issue and I lucked out because I had purchased my unit just before the Pro Max was released and the plane was in the shop for the install. SA10822SC. Thats not the case with the non-TSOd EFD1000 E5. Littleton - Arapahoe County - CO Colorado - USA , 80161. They market it somewhat that it gives GPS backup, which it does not. This accessory adds $1000 to the $4995 base price. Unfortunately, since then my new Aspen E5 has been performing poorly in the 9 months since installation. EFD1000 E5 Dual Electronic Flight Instrument (EFI) Install Manual 1) Use RSM doubler as a template to mark shim stock. Job Description. Alternatively, the FAA recommends disabling the ADS-B IN (FIS-B) option. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. It doesnt follow the magenta [line] too well on tight curves. My E5 didnt require any backups for IFR but I did have to leave the turn coordinator, airspeed and altimeter in the airplane. At this time, the airworthiness concern is not an unsafe condition that would warrant airworthiness directive (AD) action under Title 14 of the Code of Federal Regulations (14 CFR) part 39. 2023 Aircraft Owners and Pilots Association, installed Aspens first FAA-certified primary flight display, Garmin GFC 500 autopilot approved for more aircraft models, Aspen software update enables autopilot integration, Boeing, NASA to develop sustainable airliner. Display as a link instead, Share on Twitter; Share on Facebook; Share on LinkedIn; Share on Reddit; Share via Email; Join 110,000 readers each month and get the latest news and entertainment from the world of general aviation direct to your inbox, daily. The knobs are used for setting the course and heading, plus additional bugs and altitude settings. Aspen users have waited years for this solution and it's built into the E5 and the new MAX. I find this a silly discussion. Avionics; Aspen Owners Survey: An Overall Thumbs Up After some growing pains, this retrofit is performing well. Checked wiring. I wonder how many g500 unit vs individual aspen screens have been sold? The RSM's had a problem with water intrusion they updated them a couple years ago (changed the potting on the bottom) and it got a bit better. This Special Airworthiness Information Bulletin (SAIB) informs registered owners/operators of an airworthiness concern for aircraft with an Aspen Avionics, Inc. (Aspen), Evolution EFD1000 Primary Flight Display (PFD), an EFD1000 Multi-Function Display (MFD), and/or an EFD500 MFD unit as installed by Supplementary Type Certificate (STC) No. Founded in 2004 by aviation enthusiasts, Aspen Avionics has a history of punching above its weight, having long battled Garmin to gain a significant share of the general aviation avionics market. A couple of units failed completely random even had a DOA with one unit. The company said it has a customer . On the ground everything was normal, RSM was calibrated with no issues. Few minutes/seconds later AHRS light will extinguish and A/P can be re-engaged. As for installation effort, thats tough to nail because every aircraft is unique, but Aspen told us that 30 hours (minimum) of shop labor is a safe bet for the typical E5 installation. We should be practicing partial panel as part of our currency anyways. Aspen Avionics specializes in bringing advanced technology and capability into general aviation cockpits--and budgets. I wish that was the case here, those problems would be an easy fix! It estimates the total fix time at half an hour, mentions that Aspen is working on a permanent fix for the problem so its features can be turned back on, and in essence says to do this now. If anyone has any ideas or has experienced any E5 issues, please feel free to reply. I am one of the core software engineers in the Subsurface Science and Engineering (SSE) group working on next-generation cloud and desktop (Windows/Linux) software in the oil and gas industry and green energy solutions. Job specializations: Engineering. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Shortly after that they figured out it was software and stopped swapping out the hardware. While we think the E5 is a good value at $4995, we also think theres a narrow market for it given Aspens other displays that have a more substantial feature set. So my 1000 was sent back under a recall and a new Pro Max was sent back. The Aspen unit makes sense in achieving things you could not do before. Wish I could say the same about my GTN 650. Spent over 55,000 which included an Aspen 1000 Pro and it has been a 6 month night mare. What we find interesting here is that the older instruments are far more likely to be the ones in error. 1st reset) On final approach to rwy in Feb - approach power/RPM, gear going down:::E5 replaced by Aspen in Mar. Some owners wish the display dimmed even further. He enters 180 knots on his flight plan for this 1966 V-tail Bonanza (he knows he could get more if he used higher power . Went for a test flight after an install of an Aspen EFD1000 in a Cessna 310. Aspen Avionics President and CEO John Uczekaj, who joined the AIRO Group leadership team, voiced enthusiasm for the development in the same press release: As a recognized innovator in the general aviation segment, Aspens inclusion in the AIRO Groups diversified company portfolio not only helps strengthen Aspen Avionics current business lines but opens up opportunities in other aerospace markets that will enable future growth and innovation, Uczekaj said. The New Mexico creator of the Evolution Flight Display that is the foundation of many glass cockpits now has deeper pockets. Probably even would spring for a mfd1000 max to make it legal. Between that, units consistently going out of cal especially in the cold, and the garbage clip-in panel mount (we've had a couple customers end up with the efd in their lap) it's pretty bad. Additionally, with the replacement units, he would have gotten the newest firmware, surely, not something falling under an AD that was issued almost a year ago. This AD requires disabling the ADS-B In function in each installer menu by changing the RS-232 INPUT for the bus connected to the ADS-B In to NONE. 35 instances of display systems automatically resetting have been reported. It also suggested that operators disable their ADS-B In (FIS-B) function by pulling the circuit breaker. I wont turn this into a this is better, He has an E5 showing similar unsafe behavior, i.e. Pulling the ADS-B circuit breaker as described in section 3.2.6 of the Flight Manual supplement, has been demonstrated to resolve the issue. The $4,995 upgrade converts the E5 to a full, TSOed MAX displaycontinuing to demonstrate the company's commitment to avionics platforms that can grow with a pilot's needs. Three of the five keys along the lower right side of the EFI function as either single-action hot keys for frequently used commands or as menu keys when the E5s menu has been activated. Are you saying mine is not installed per the STC? You can post now and register later. The FAA said the condition doesnt currently warrant an Airworthiness Directive, and it offered suggestions to avoid the problem. Well do a separate article on these systems when theyre available this spring, but we like what we saw. additional data such as true airspeed or a wind vector. The E5 crashed and reset on me in flight about 5 hrs I to that trip. Is it not obvious to me and many others that there are intermittent problems that Aspen should be learning from failed units like this in 300 hours? When Aspen Avionics announced its retrofit PFD system in 2007, we were impressed with the designs ingenuity and its workable price point. <u>Description:</u><br><br>Take your career to a new level and work at an extraordinary company in Englewood CO! Wish I could say the same about my GTN 650. As an Electronics Engineer, you will lead the development of a sophisticated state-of-the-art Avionics for a hypersonics product in a world class Integrated Product Development environment. The E5 also has basic GPS and raw nav course guidance, but there is no electronic HSI, although the E5 is fully IFR capable. Thats a bugaboo with other legacy Aspen displays, and a compromised pitot reference can result in the loss of all primary flight data-even attitude. There is no map display thats standard on other Evolution PFD systems. Hey PaulThere has been a lot of action lately from Aspen on this topic. I've seen this a couple of times in the fleet I work with. - June 10, 2019. The problem, the SAIB said, appears to be related to the ADS-Binterface, and the FAA recommended that operators suspend night and IFR operations until the problem has been straightened out. Unlike Garmins G5 series, which are two separate instruments (attitude and directional), Aspens E5 combines both an electronic DG and attitude display. SPEAKER: Uczekaj is president and CEO of Aspen Avionics. But I do agree that hardware failures are prevalent. Theyre more likely to recognize a hardware issue and have a replacement on hand. The left knobs primary function is for setting the E5s course value, and its also used to bug an airspeed. If you are interested in the Avionics Maintenance Technician apply today! And another had to have a warranty exchange on the mfd that just shit out right after installation. New to posting here.but hoping to get some help. You can adjust your cookie settings, otherwise we'll assume you're okay to continue. Picture of panel for info. One Cessna 310 owner had the easiest install weve heard of: They just pulled two steam gauges out, gave me a credit for them and ran cable to the roof for the GPS sensor.. Aircraft Owners & Pilots Association Find it free on the store. Between our full-time technicians, we have over 50 years combined . Im pretty sure the ea100 works with many older AP systems that the GAD units are not certified for. He ended up getting 5 different EA100s before getting the system to work correctly. Aspen calls the E5 a Dual EFI (electronic flight instrument) because its really a dual instrument, replacing the traditional mechanical attitude indicator and directional gyro in one split display. This needs to be done. The MAX display upgrade comes with a fresh two-year warranty. The FAA admits in the AD that the commentary period is largely mute because an unsafe condition exists that requires the immediate adoption of this AD without providing an opportunity for public comments prior to adoption.. The latest iteration of this is a new app that emulates the functions of the Aspen EFD1000 flight display. For more than five decades, active and dedicated aircraft owners and pilots have turned to AVIATION CONSUMER to answer their most important buying questions. Once this is done, run the Aspen Properties Database Configuration Tester again and check if the issues have been fixed. Aerospace Engineer, Avionics Engineer, Electrical Engineer, Systems Engineer. Be watching for an update from you. That shouldnt be difficult given Aspens large dealer network. I have current issues with Cies fuel senders and Aerospace Logic gauges so on a scale of 0-10 Jepp is a 0 for customer service, Avidyne a 1, Aerospace logic is a 3 . I recently upgraded to the Max version. Your link has been automatically embedded. None of this seems to matter tho. The lower half of the EFI is the navigation display, which has 360-degree and ARC compass rose displays. Make sure you their is not any ferrous material nearby, make sure you do not use power tools to install. Last email I have from the owner was January this year when it was working correctly after multiple cross country flights. This AD also requires revising the AFMS to reflect each disabled unit. and b., of Aspen Avionics Mandatory Service Bulletin No. Like the E5, the new MAX is a huge improvement in display performance. A couple of units failed completely random even had a DOA with one unit. PFD Primary flight display instrument panels These design changes are defined in the 900-00003-001, Revision CC, EFD1000, and EFD500 Software Version 2.X installation manual, dated March 2020.. Until then, I can not help you. One MFD failed first 2 weeks know less than 1 year MFD took about 30 minutes to power up Thanks Don. Keep leadership and co-workers apprised of work progress and/or problems. Specifically, this SAIB notifies owners and operators of temporary loss of all flight display information due to blanking during reset. Posted by Cessna Owner Organization | Jan 23, 2019 | Avionics, FAA Announcements & Certifications. . SHARE; ASPEN E5 SYSTEM WITH TOP MOUNT RSM. Even if the AD is explicitly about ADS-B traffic which the OP specifically listed as not even being fed into the system? The reset occurs between five- to ten-minute intervals. The MAX uses the new display and processor technology (the same thats used in the E5), plus it also includes the ACU for advanced autopilot interfaces as standard. https://mooneyspace.com/topic/32905-aspen-pro-max-issues-communication-from-aspen-avionics/, https://buy.garmin.com/en-US/US/p/719027/pn/010-GI275-06, https://aspenavionics.com/pdfs/991-00144-002_(_)_OA2020-01_MAX_EFD1000__E5_Reset_Event.pdf, https://www.bendixking.com/en/products/aeroflight, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. It took some getting used to. She is a private pilot, certificated aircraft dispatcher, and graduate of Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University. Listing for: Lockheed Martin Corporation. Listed on 2023-03-01. Existing Aspen displays can be upgraded to the MAX, which could be worth it for owners of legacy Aspen displays. Share More sharing options. Total Aviation Staffing, LLC. Aspen Avionics has populated the field with over 20,000 Evolution EFIS displays over a 10-year span and is the latest to offer a budget-based EFIS with the $4995 EFD1000 E5 Dual EFI.